Where do I learn Java?

Ventality Yeah. They are unfortunately not here today....

I tried to learn the Bukkit API first without having a good amount of Java knowledge. Didn't work out. Bought Java For Dummies. Watched Thenewboston. Made a Randomizing guessing game. Made a few Java programs. Came back and I was maybe O.K. good with it now.

 

That would create a paradox.

 

Ugh, yes, I often have to clean those up by crashing people's computers with my sonic screwdriver.

 

The_Doctor_123
Please tell me what i cant learn from oracle site and i will give you link to official documentation about that thing.


Reading documentation is FREE, FAST and always provide actual updated information.

 

Ugh, we've had this argument before with very similar words. Why not try something new?

 

What about PogoStick29 java tutorials?

 

RawCode You can't learn how trying something new helps you and how taking a different approach on learning will help some people more then others

 

They are good, however I would still recommend learning Java first, and his tutorials are for Bukkit.

 

i dont need to try anything new, you can accept it or continue to suggest "java for dummies".

 

Ventality If you feel comfortable and you think you are getting a good learning experience from him.

 

He's made a couple Java tutorials

 

RawCode You may not, but this post isn't about how you can learn Java, is it?

 

Accept it? Why don't you accept this?

 

Well, both kind of

 

xTigerRebornx
This thread about "where do i learn Java" my suggestion "on oracle site", other suggestions "buy book".

any more questions?

 

Awesome, now stop saying that we're wrong, and then we'll respect your opinion.

 

Your other suggestion: "suggestion to buy book is joke."

 

The_Doctor_123
You are wrong, it does not matter, do you respect my opinion or not.

 

RawCode

 

Your ignorance is at an extremely high level. What you're saying leads to dictatorship.

 

xTigerRebornx

 

How is The_Doctor_123 wrong about his statement upon books vs oracle's tutorial? (NOTE: I said oracles tut since that is the only link you initially mentioned, not the entirity of oracle's site which is for another discussion)
He simply stated that no one learns the same, therefore people need to figure out what works.

You simply have a biased and skewed picture and ideal of how people should learn, which is apparently only one way. Its like swimming, not everyone learns the same way.

So you are wrong. And your grammar is terrible.

 

The_Doctor_123 New Bukkit Rule - No Dictatorship allowed. Someone get Timtower to use his magical powers of being a non-moderator, yet moderating!

 

LOL timtower

Can't we just get along and respect our personal opinions.

EDIT by Moderator: merged posts, please use the edit button instead of double posting.

 

If I owned the forums..

 

Ventality I can, but RawCode is saying that my personal opinion/ The_Doctor_123 's personal opinion is wrong. Not sure if he can

 

Ventality Everyone gets along here. Bukkit is my first community that the majority of it is nice and not at each other's throats and all.

 

This thread has pretty much devolved into a circlejerk on java for dummies...

@OP

You simply will not find a more in-depth or up-to-date resource than oracle's own tutorial. Might I add that this is documentation provided by the people who write the language. Books are not updated, the website is. You won't find lambda expressions, information on Metaspace (the replacement for the PermGen), or other new technical things in books. You also will find what is approximately the most in-depth explanations on the matter.

Most of the people here that are suggesting a book and downplaying oracle's documentation and tutorials more than likely have not used them in-depth themselves. There are:

tutorials on OOP concepts: http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/concepts/index.html
A hello world example: http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/getStarted/cupojava/netbeans.html
More information on this "hello world": http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/getStarted/application/index.html
The basics of the language: http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/nutsandbolts/index.html
Getting started with the language in general: http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/getStarted/

Oracle's documentation is the complete and total documentation on the language. That is not to say that there are alternative ways to learn, but you will not find resources that are managed and kept as up to date as the source of the language itself.

 

So, Websites not books?

 

Not websites specifically. Oracle's documentation is (imo) the best resource for learning java. If you are confused by any of the material, then googling usually results in a clearer explanation. You can also post on http://stackoverflow.com/ if you still cannot find the proper clarification (with the intent to learn, not to simply be handed the answer).