When will Bukkit be updated for Minecraft 1.5?

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    We have completed the update to Minecraft 1.5_02 (and have had it done for a while now) and are working out a few issues before we promote a recommended build. A TEST ONLY build is available but we highly recommend that you wait until we promote a Recommended Build before putting it on your production server.

    You can find the latest test build on ci.bukkit.org. Please note, though, that if you don't already know how to get it, you probably shouldn't be using it. Only Recommended Builds have gone through extensive testing. Anything else could result in unforeseen problems like Bukkit eating your cake or your world. You have been warned.


    Common Problems/Questions:
    What's the first build that works with Minecraft 1.5_02
    The first CraftBukkit build that works with Minecraft 1.5_02 was made available 2 days ago and is build #689. However, it is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED that if you are running the test builds, you always stay up to date as we usually fix bugs, exploits and improve stability.

    I downloaded build 714 but got some other build!
    You're probably reading the version string incorrectly.

    Here's an example version string:
    git-Bukkit-0.0.0-686-g71ef92a-b714jnks (MC: 1.5_02)

    This version string is for build 714, as you can tell by the "b714jnks" at the end.

    Whenever I use a plugin that changes blocks, I can't see the changes until I reconnect!
    We had an issue with blocks not updating properly but this has since been fixed from build #707. This bug affected plugins that changed blocks in game, like WorldEdit.

    Help! My console keeps getting spammed with this error whenever someone gets kicked or disconnects and it lags the server!
    This is a bug we've fixed from build #701 onwards.

    I can't build or destroy anything! Help!?
    The common cause of this issue is a client mod called Single Player Commands, please try uninstalling all your client mods and seeing if this fixes the issue. If this is the case, then it isn't a Bukkit issue and you should contact the author of the mods you use.

    Every time I connect to the server and load a sign, the client crashes. What's wrong?
    Minecraft 1.5 has added limits for sign text. Plugin developers commonly used longer sign text to store extra data or add colours to signs. This is no longer possible, so we now cut off any line in a sign longer than 15 characters (as of build #712).

    I get kicked when flying and am told that flying hasn't been enabled on this server. How do I enable flying?
    Minecraft 1.5 added anti-flying checks. You can enable flying by setting allow-flight=true in server.properties.

    Whenever I try to send a long message in chat, it gets cut off at roughly two lines.
    A limit on chat has been added with Minecraft 1.5. This is one of the issues we're hoping to address before we promote a Recommended Build.

    Help! When I use the CLI arguments to set ports (or any setting), the server always starts up on 25565 or ignores the setting!
    There was a bug that prevented the server from reading settings passed through CLI arguments. This has since been fixed from build #706 onwards.

    The easiest fix for most problems is to update to the latest Bukkit test build.


    As is the case with every Minecraft update, we saw our usual influx of extra traffic from people wondering if we have a build of CraftBukkit working with the Minecraft update seconds after release (seriously). Usually, you'd see a pretty standard post from me stating we're working on an update and providing the usual advice that you aren't forced to update. However, this time there was a distinct lack of communication from the team regarding the status of the update, other than the usual "we're working on it". Couple this with the slow development occurring lately and we can forgive people for posting the expected "is Bukkit dead?" or "what's going on?" posts. I hope this post will explain everything.

    Will there be a CraftBukkit for Minecraft 1.5?
    Given the reports of showstopping bugs present in 1.5, there's a high chance a new bugfix update for Minecraft will be out tomorrow or even several times this week. As a result, it is unlikely we will be releasing a 1.5 compatible build and, instead, will be waiting for something stable to work with.

    Due to the nature of the project and the methods we use to provide Bukkit for Minecraft, any update - no matter how small - requires us to figure out the mapping of obfuscated classes and update our code. This takes a lot of time and work, so hopefully you understand our decision.

    Having said all this, we recommend that you stay on 1.4 for a while until the patch storm subsides if your server depends on Bukkit.

    Further, I wanted to apologise for the lack of communication regarding this update. I was really hesitant announcing this since it would only serve to disappoint and annoy people, however, I noticed quite a few supportive comments on here and IRC that pushed me to post this announcement because the people that have supported us through everything deserve it.

    Why are things so quiet? Why is the update taking so long?
    Before I answer this, I think it is appropriate to cover what usually happens when we're aware of an update coming soon. Whenever we recieve word of a Minecraft update (which, contrary to popular belief, is generally the same time as everyone else), we place all development in the Bukkit project under a code freeze to prepare for the update and make things easier. That being said, last week thursday we were expecting a Minecraft update and appropriately placed the project under a code freeze. Unfortunately, the update was delayed and pushed to the next week, resulting in a much longer code freeze than normally occurs. Naturally, this lead to activity within the project seeming critically lower than it really was and prompted some people to post the inevitable "what's going on?" thread.

    On top of the code freeze, we're working on some larger changes to Bukkit or CraftBukkit that require quite a bit of time to complete and will only be commited to the public code when they are ready. Quite often you'll find that, while you don't see any updates, we definitely are still working hard programming awesome things and appreciate your patience and support.

    So why is this update taking so long? After we had updated for Minecraft 1.4, we came across some annoying chunk related issues and bugs that were incredibly difficult to pinpoint due to confusion with the new obfuscated names mappings (d -> c and c -> d). Naturally, these kinds of issues were unacceptable for the project and we immediately got to work on improving our update process to avoid issues of this nature in the future. While I think we can all agree with this decision, the unfortunate result is the delay we're currently facing since we're not yet done improving the process. The good news is, we're nearly done improving our update handling process and the wait will definitely be worth it come future updates.

    Thank you for your patience and understanding!
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    Good call ! 1.5 is glitched enough as it is, let alone if you bring a speed build out. Stability is key :)
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    thanks for giving us an update. I appreciate all the hard work you are going through.
    all clients have already updated to 1.5 because i was so stupid to think a new craftbukkit version would be released within a day... .
    i'm afraid i will just have to put in the vanilla server as a temporaly solution. I warned everyone that i would make a backup and put it back afterwards if there would be any griefing.

    i will wait patiently for next update.
    in the meantime, i could go play portal 2!
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    A WEEK OF Death..... lol me? just a week thats fine good job!
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    Thanks a lot for all the hard work and update on the situation :D
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    Just goes to show that the bukkit dev team knows exactly what they're doing :)

    Keep up the good work.
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    Thanks for the heads up, now I can wait for the update in peace :)

    Best of luck with all the projects you have!
  8. Very well anticipated, Notch just announced 1.5_01 on his twitter.
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    glad to know they are trying to sort this out, vannila servers suck tbh, so im hoping minecraft will sort themselves out so that bukkit can sort themselves out :D
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    Dont bother with the trolls rusty. Total waste of time.
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    Damn, gonna setup Portal 2 and play Mortal Kombat 2011 meanwhile. Go, Bukkit! :)
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    K S

    anyone know how to downgrade a client back to 1.4_01 ?
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    For those asking about Majong making pre-releases. That's not really their style. In fact basically what they do is give the pre-release away to all. It could be argued that 1.5 is the pre-release now we have optional updates - and that 1.5_01/_02 will be the stable 1.5 releases.
  14. Guys, you should understand Bukkit dev team will have his blog up constantly, looking for the latest updates, we don't need to keep pestering the hard working volunteer devs', it'll be out when it's out, it's fustrating, but hey, update to 1.5 and put yourself to vanilla on the map (backup) and spawn a shitload of TNT and let people blow the world up :) best way to keep people entertained. Also, you should probs get ready for the mad bukkit.org downtime when it comes out and over 1000 people get downloading at the same time :D!
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    If you backed up your .minecraft folder you're in luck - you can use that... otherwise no. Polite requests not to distribute out of date/modded clients have been made by Majong/Notch.. and the optional update system is their way letting you keep using your mods/servers until their updated too.
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    Someone gave link to 1.4_01 in this topic or previous
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    Thank you :D.
    Im looking forward to it ;D
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    I did post a backup on page 2 but post was removed. And after this post further down, I'm not going to post link again untill some kind of permissions are given, sorry.

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    What I do to Manage the Updates at LPMinecraft.com

    Instead of whining about the update it may be better to show people how they can manage to ride the update wave (much like @rustybroomhandle has). So since I pretty much do the complete opposite to what he described I thought I would write it here.

    This is the thought process I recommend admins using:

    What do my users prefer to have?
    When I ask this question I mean - do my users want a new temporary world with none of the things which they have spent days (and weeks making), no addons and features they are used to, or would they prefer to have to wait another week or so for the new Mojang updates but get to keep the many more features they already have?​

    In my case I normally put it to a vote since we have a polling system built in. Users (in fact all users bar 1) said that they would like to stay on the same world and wait for the update.

    This brings the problem for all people who have already upgraded not being able to play on the server. Big deal - this is how you fix that:

    How do I allow people who like to play on my server but have already updated?
    Fist off communicate with your users. It's not hard. They are all equally concerned about the situation so just be clear and explanatory about the action you are going to take. Not difficult - any decent server admin should be able to manage this (either that or get a decent PR team).

    You basically teach your users how to downgrade. What? Downgrading? Then we lose our new features a user might say? (Read above) Downgrading can easily be toggled if you show your users how to do it nicely.

    That's all very well but how do I downgrade easily and efficiently?
    In essence I normally suggest people backup the whole .minecraft folder before they update. The .minecraft folder is in different places for each person (appdata for windows, home folder for linux). Now basically you can use symlinks here if you want to make it easy to toggle but that is probably above the scope of 99.9% of your users so it's simpler if you just show them how to do it by copying and renaming folders.

    My users since I communicate with the community regularly do this pretty much without a hitch. In fact new members get taken through it on our mumble (voice) server to teach them how. We're a friendly bunch.

    BUT that is in the past!!! They already upgraded and didn't backup their old data files?
    Ok this happens... and its annoying as an admin to have to deal with this issue. However there is an easy solution provided by us here including the files required for downgrading.

    http://lpminecraft.com/forums/showwiki.php?title=Tutorials:How to Downgrade your Minecraft&&highlight=downgrade

    It's simple but if you get stuck feel free to find our mumble details in our news feed on the home page of the forum. From there you are welcome to log into our mumble and have a chat with myself or plenty of the competent people in there for help.

    The tutorial will soon have Windows, Mac and Linux examples with screenshots and maybe a video if I have time.

    Who are you?
    I'm me, a server admin, probably similar to you. Have a nice day :) haha!



    Consider saying thank you :) if you have time. Thanks
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    Thanks for the info buddy :) Ill sit and wait quietly. Don't know how my server users will fell though ;) x
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    You might have to wait for this to be updated for version 1.5.
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    thanks, i really appreciate the hard work.
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    Keep up the good work your making the right moves with the update process for 1.5
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    By now, most of my players have actually learned to back up their .jar files so they can switch between trying out the new stuff in SP and playing SMP. The ones who haven't figured it out probably never will and I've long since decided not to give a damn.

    Happy easter guys, get some R&R :-D
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    or just read the link in my post above
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    You guys are doing a great job, keep up the good work!
    I'd rather wait a few days and have a proper piece of software than a quick and dirty buggy server.
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    Not all of us Admins have a website/message board or other means to communicate with our users. I'm one of them. I can't afford a server, a website and forum let alone finding the time to maintain it all. So when an update hits, a large percentage of people who regular my server are going to update and there's no way I can intervene. Yeah, I have a few of them on Steam but I'm an Admin, not everyones best friend.
    Also, assuming that the regulars play exclusively on one server is a bit of a long shot.

    Regardless, I've just made it a free for all until the update hits. Gives people a chance to mess about, blow things up and have a laugh until normality is restored.
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    David T.

    That really sucks. Me, and everyone that uses my server already updated to 1.5 and WE haven't had any problems, how have you??!! I just want my plugins back. My server is useless without them.
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    Totally support the choice to wait for a more stable version to work from. I don't see why everybody has such a rush on to get the latest update. The weather is the only really big change and from what I've heard and seen it's not really so OMFGWTFBBQ that we can't wait another week. Anybody who thinks it is something they can't live without should really back up from the PC and take a look outside... you know, at the real weather we have in the world.

    Good luck guys and thanks for the information. :)
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    Mike Sewell

    Completely understandable - keep up the great work!
  31. Heh, you were right, new update came out 50 seconds ago :D And that's fine guys, take your time, your aleready doing so much for us, we can wait! BE PATIENT PEOPLE! They work so much for us! Don't complain!
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