Place special items on glass, cacti, glowstone, etc.

Discussion in 'Archived: Plugin Requests' started by PapiDimmi, Sep 7, 2014.

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    PapiDimmi

    I'm looking forward to this.

    If I could Java, I would definitely make this, but you can call me a noob.

    -bump- [diamond]
     
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    MrEditor97

    Me and another member of the community are working on this for you.
     
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    PapiDimmi

    That's great. I am really looking forward of what you're capable of doing.
    Seeing this plugin in action with all the features I mention (or at least most of them) would make me really happy, and hopefully some other people too. [diamond]
     
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    PapiDimmi

    MrEditor97 Sabersek (If you change your mind: xGhOsTkiLLeRx)

    I'm so excited! I need this plugin quite soon, but don't rush! Okay, rush a little bit. Not too much, though! :p
     
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    PapiDimmi

    MrEditor97 Sabersek

    Please give me an update! It's been eight days since you last spoke.

    Did you give up making this plugin? Is it in development? Are you having a break?

    Please tell me!


    I'd appreciate if someone else tries to make this, since it seems like Mr Editor and Sab is not responding.
     
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    ChocolateChoo

    Sabersek
    *Cough cough* Nice icon *Cough*
     
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    PapiDimmi

    Like this post if you like water.
     
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    PapiDimmi

    I'm quite confused. Are anyone actually making this plugin? MrEditor97 is not replying.
     
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    MrEditor97

    I'm waiting due to the current Craftbukkit not being updated to 1.8 due to legal restrictions.
     
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    PapiDimmi

    Dang it! CraftBukkit is not going to be updated to 1.8 in a long while, being as it's taken down, and Mojang's purchased by Microsoft.

    Even if CraftBukkit releases an update for Minecraft 1.8, it's going to be buggy, so we'd have to wait another long while for another build.
    Even then, the code has changed, so you'd need to learn how to create plugins for Minecraft 1.8.
    Almost nobody would want a 1.8 CraftBukkit server anyway, because nearly any plugins would be updated for 1.8, and let's be honest; 1.8 will break all, and if not, nearly all, plugins.

    A whole lot of people are running CB 1.7.10 servers, so I do not see why you'd not want to create this plugin.
    Didn't you promise so? Correct me if I'm wrong.

    If anybody want to create this for me, I'd appreciate it a whole dang lot. I really want and need this plugin quite soon.
    Thank you for your help!
     
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    timtower Administrator Administrator Moderator

    PapiDimmi That is why we have an API, the code might change, but the interface that developers use not.
    You are assuming things without knowledge about it.
     
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    PapiDimmi

    timtower Does it matter, really?

    • I know that CraftBukkit 1.8 will take a rather long time to be released.
    • I know that the code will change, and it will definitively be harder to code plugins.
    • I know that the first CraftBukkit 1.8 build will be buggy, and it most likely wouldn't function that great - at least not with plugins.
    • I know that most people won't update to CraftBukkit 1.8 - or at least downgrade to CraftBukkit 1.7.10 again - because of the majority of plugins that won't be updated before a long time. Many will never be updated, because many people are using smaller plugins that most likely won't be updated.
    • I know that nearly all Bukkit servers are running CraftBukkit 1.7.10.
     
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    timtower Administrator Administrator Moderator

    Can't deny that
    And you say that based on? We have the Bukkit API, that is specially made so the code that we use won't change much. That is the reason why we can run plugins made for 1.4 on 1.7 servers
    Depends on who makes it and how many releases they throw, every thing that you code can contrain bugs.
    See the bukkit API stuff
    And that means that?
    They are probably doing that because there is no solid alternative yet.
     
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    mrCookieSlime

    1. Correct!
    2. Nope, that is what an API is for... It ensures that Projects almost never break...
    3. Well, don't you think the Bukkit Staff will test their Builds a billion times before releasing it? There might be a few bugs as always, but it won't be completely buggy.
    4. Read 2.
    5. That is probably the case.

    EDIT: timtower ninja'd me again D:
     
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    PapiDimmi

    Edit: mrCookieSlime You too? G'damn.
    Many people are running 1.8 servers, just not with CraftBukkit.

    Well, I give up. It does not really matter. People are requesting plugins even though CB 1.8 is not released.

    If anybody want to create this plugin for me, I'd highly appreciate it. [diamond]
     
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    xGhOsTkiLLeRx

    PapiDimmi you seem completely uninformed as it seems.
    I won't tell you again the API stuff again.

    But one approach of this plugin should be to rely on the Bukkit API and therefore should work on 1.7.X and 1.8.X.

    MrEditor97 statement is only partially true. Yes, we need to see what changes with 1.8, but a plugin developed for 1.7 might just need a small (let's call it compatibility) update to add support for new blocks. (Bad if this is even needed, you should program a plugin in the style that it works dynamically, with only one block, or 250 or thousands of different ones)

    However the key point is that there is a lack of staff & volunteers and the community is leaving. I wrote my goodbye, too, since it's pointless to rely on CraftBukkit, the recent history just showed that.
    I doubt that CraftBukkit will be used as much as before when an 1.8 update is released since there are no developers left and nearly all of them are migrating to Sponge and try their best to push an update out. Maybe you should ask there (not yet, wait for a stable release!) for such a plugin, if it's even possible at all.

    Just my 2 cents & cheers,
     
  18. xGhOsTkiLLeRx I think hte point MrEditor97 was making not that he needs to see what changes with CraftBukkit, but wants to see where CraftBukkit is going first. A lot of people do not wish to develop plugins until they're certain of the fate of it, which I understand. Switching from a Bukkit plugin to a new platform would not necessarily be an easy change, there is the very real possible a complete rewrite would be required.

    Also, there are some cases in which it's impossible to make a plugin dynamic. If the API doesn't categorise certain things the way you need it, then a manual list would be required, which would not be update-safe. Granted it should be made in a way that adding blocks is non-trivial. A config could also go a long way to making it version safe, but is not necessarily a perfect solution.
     
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    xGhOsTkiLLeRx

    AdamQpzm
    Since this plugin is a rewrite/new plugin anyways you can take the challenge to program it with a new API - I see your point however and do agree that a lot of people won't program just "into the blue"

    If this project was built the way I think it could be dynamically - but I won't put my hand in the fire for that. Would be cool if it will be - but if not, I can understand why if there are valid facts/limits why it's the way it is.


    Maan too much theory (if, could, will, would, ...) in this post ;D
     
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    UnwrittenPaper

    XgXXSnipz

     
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    XgXXSnipz

    UnwrittenPaper sad :/, nothing is to hard for the human mind, just need to try and not give up
     
  23. XgXXSnipz Oh please. Don't feel so superior because you know Java and others don't. This isn't a place to recommend that everyone learn Java, otherwise why would we have a plugin requests section? There are numerous reasons somebody would not learn Java.

    Personally, I believe that some people are not able to learn programming to a good degree, in the same way that I don't think some people can become good artists, or authors, or whatever. I've even seen studies to back this up. I believe that certain people are not suited to certain crafts, it's just not who they are.

    So please be respectful of others, regardless of whether they know Java or not. Knowing or not knowing does not make someone a better or worse person, and it's highly unlikely that the only reason people who don't know it is because they don't put the effort in. :)
     
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    XgXXSnipz

    AdamQpzm I wasnt being superior I just suggested for him to learn, man...over sensitive community
     
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    UnwrittenPaper

    Well, I feel that "y can't u learn Java, just wondering" and "Sad. Nothing's impossible for the human mind," et cetera basically means "Hey, you don't know Java, but I do. In yo' face!"

    Poor PapiDimmi.

    Hey, you spelt "entities" wrong. You're a moron! :D

    EDIT by Moderator: merged posts, please use the edit button instead of double posting.
     
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    XgXXSnipz

    UnwrittenPaper ummm... not really DUDE what is up with this website, I like BF and all but there are just some people on here that take things the complete wrong way and act "over mature" and think in really weird ways
     
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    UnwrittenPaper

    XgXXSnipz What does "BF" mean (other than "boyfriend") in this context?

    WhatThe F----Boom?
    Be Friendly?
    Bang Females?
    Be Fresh?
    Be Funky?
    Ballet FTW?

    I don't understand.
     
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    XgXXSnipz

    UnwrittenPaper *BF bukkit forums(somthing I came up with, LOL)...
     
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    UnwrittenPaper

    XgXXSnipz Well, no one is going to understand it anyway.

    Just use "Bukkit Forums" like normal people, please.

    It's like if I said "Hey, guys. IFRG today!" meaning "Hey, guys. I feel really good today!"
    No one will understand it but you.


    By the way, this thread is going wayyy too off-topic now.
     
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